Robert Malone) quite a bit as they have mused about the safety and efficacy of vaccines. (PunditFact reporter Bill McCarthy tunes in the most.) We have fact-checked Rogan and his guests (like Dr. Katie Sanders, PolitiFact managing editor: We listen to a lot of Joe Rogan clips as part of our daily work to fact-check claims from pundits and about the pandemic. But, for one, the JRE issue highlights that there is plenty of misinformation in the audio world, and two, as our audience expands to older folks and other demos, we need to expand our platform focus.Īlanna Dvorak, international training manager at the International Fact-Checking Network: I think, to Tom’s point, as a voracious consumer of podcasts, Spotify has certainly tried to make itself a publisher because of the vast number of shows they’ve made Spotify-exclusive, including “Science Vs,” which published a letter in objection to JRE. We publish Teen Fact-Checking Network videos and other educational content about TikToks, Instagram posts, tweets, etc. But I find that this question - what is Spotify - is ingrained in this controversy.Īlex Mahadevan, MediaWise program manager: I think it’s been a wake-up call that there isn’t enough focus on podcasts when it comes to digital media literacy. Many have argued, and I agree, that because Spotify has paid Rogan up to $100 million to EXCLUSIVELY publish his podcast, that it is a media company and, therefore, responsible for what he or his guests say. Tom Jones, Poynter senior media writer: As someone who writes about media and media coverage, what I find most interesting about the Rogan story is this question: What is Spotify? Is it a streaming platform that merely passes along Rogan’s podcast? Or is it a media company that is responsible for the content on Rogan’s podcast? What have you found are the implications of Rogan’s show on your job in journalism/fact-checking? No! Joni Mitchell? If not Joni, then maybe Brené Brown? All are embroiled in a debate around “The Joe Rogan Experience,” one of Spotify’s most popular podcasts and many episodes of which we find ourselves (at Poynter, PolitiFact, MediaWise and the International Fact-Checking Network) fact-checking. Josie Hollingsworth, PolitiFact audience director: Hello! We’ve gathered here today to discuss Spotify. The following Slack chat has been lightly edited for length and clarity. In light of artists and podcasters leaving Spotify over its misinformation policy, the fact-checking minds of Poynter came together to discuss the implications of “The Joe Rogan Experience,” comedian Joe Rogan’s controversial and wildly popular show, on the world of media and fact-checking.
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